Dec
21
2009

Couch to 5k: Feedback Needed for 8k, 10k Podcasts

Need your help!

If you are one of the thousands of peeps who have downloaded my podcasts, this post is for you. Specifically if you are in the group that has requested more podcasts of the longer distance variety. I stopped at 5k, but there are training plans for 8k and 10k and quite a few of you are fiending for podcasts to help in your training. I have said before that I would have no problem creating a new set, and looked for feedback, and never really got any.

So, if you are one of the visitors that is interested in this, I really need you read this entire post and comment below, so I can figure out how to do this for y’all.

About a year ago, I wrote about how after I got to Week 9, I just kept repeating it week after week. That meant I was just doing 30 minute runs, not increasing my workload, and thus, not challenging myself further. I actually did get some feedback in that post and was directed to Gateway to 8k and other similar training programs. So, that’s not the problem.

Thing is, I don’t know where to jump into any of those sets. Also, I don’t monitor BPM. All I deal with is run/walk intervals.

So take the Gateway to 8k program [LINK]. Week 1 looks like this:

5-min. warmup @ 132-137 BPM
7 min. @ 145 BPM
1 min. @ 137 BPM
7 min. @ 145 BPM
1 min. @ 137 BPM
7 min. @ 145 BPM
1 min. @ 137 BPM
7 min. @ 145 BPM
1 min. @ 137 BPM
5-min. cooldown @ 137-132 BPM

The whole BPM thing throws me a little. Is the lower number, 137, supposed to be a walking interval or just a little slower paced run? Also, doesn’t it seem that, after doing a full 30 minute run (Week 9 of c25k), that this run would be taking a step backwards? Should I start a little further into the program instead? These are the questions I ran into last year when I was asked to consider making more podcasts. I figured that since more people are commenting on the site, that now would be a great time to bring this up again.

(Likewise, the Freeway to 10k outline can be found here.)

If someone could chime in and “break it down” for me, that’d go a long way towards me figuring out how to hook everyone up! I know I’ve already said I would create a new set of podcasts, to train for the longer races, and I will. I just need a little direction! Please?

Posted on December 21st, 2009 in Podcasts,Working on my Fitness

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  • msugrad_99

    Suz!

    Glad you are still considering extending the C25K podcasts. I had my sister figure out how to create podcasts this summer and we ran into the same problem with the bpm on the gateway to 8k – mostly because we are slow runners and nothing is going to change that – although I would like to run longer. She made the week 1 you listed above and basically we used them as time prompts, nothing more. I ended up doing some more internet searches and found the One Hour Running program http://mindplunge.com/c25k/one-hour-runner.html which builds you up to a 60 minute run. It'd be great if you could create some podcasts (my sister lost her motivation) that incorporated your music and your voice time prompts.

    Just an idea!

  • suzdawg

    Thanks for chiming in. I'll take a look at that program and see what I can do!

  • Nolonger5kvirgin

    Loved your C25k podcasts, after I got used to some of the lyrics for the first few weeks(middle-aged women in Iowa don’t usually listen to raw hip hop LOL).
    Got lots of my friends on board as well. We’re no longer 5k virgins and are looking at working toward our first 10k. PLEASE work your magic again! I too, may getting just a little bit tired of running to week 9 over and over… Thanks!!!

  • orfeater

    Hi there. Very excited (and grateful) that you're thinking of taking on this effort.

    I'm no expert, but I've worked with the interval series you're referencing. Regarding the BPM, the lower BPMs are meant to be for brisk walks – basically a walk that requires a little bit of hustle, as opposed to just a casual walk down the street. You're recovering from your latest run interval but you're still moving/walking at an accelerated pace to keep your heart pumping.

    As far as your concern about taking a step back, it does appear that way, but keep in mind you are attempting to increase your TOTAL distance each week. So while you can run 30 mins straight because of week 9 of c25k, you're starting a new program that builds your strength to eventually run 45+ mins, and your body will “absorb” that training easier through the intervals, rather than just adding 2 or 3 mins each week to your 30 min run. At least, my body did! So I think its good to start at week one of Gateway.

    Very excited about this! If you need any tunes, I'd share some of mine,

  • Katie

    When I trained to do longer distances I just chose songs that had a good beat and ones that I liked to get me through it. I didn't do intervals, I did one long run each week and added onto that. I am training for a 12k (~7.5miles), right now I run 4 miles Tuesday, 3 or 4 on Thursday, and a long one on Saturdays (was up to 7 miles before the Christmas break, might have to start back at 6 this week!) And then a recovery EZ run on Sundays. So all I needed was a longer playlist of uptempo music to keep me going. I loved your C25k series and will definitely be downloading more if you make longer sets!

  • beelausu

    Hey Suz,

    I found this c to 10k program in minute intervals which i am better with than anything else because i love to run outside. i dont know if this will help with your creating a couch to 10K podcast. but here it is nonetheless.

    i think because u are training for a longer distance the step backwards helps because u need to slow it down and find the right pace as u add miles.

    hope this helps!

    Coach to 10K Training program
    Week 1

    Session 1 – 34 min. Run 1 minute. Walk 2 minutes. Do this 8 times.

    Session 2 – 28 min. Run 1 minute. Walk 2 minutes. Do this 6 times.

    Session 3 – 31 min. Run 1 minute. Walk 2 minutes. Do this 7 times.

    Week 2

    Session 1 – 38 min. Run 2 minutes. Walk 2 minutes. Do this 7 times.

    Session 2 – 31 min. Run 1 minute. Walk 2 minutes. Do this 7 times.

    Session 3 – 34 min. Run 2 minutes. Walk 2 minutes. Do this 6 times.

    Week 3

    Session 1 – 45 min. Run 3 minutes. Walk 2 minutes. Do this 7 times.

    Session 2 – 34 min. Run 2 minutes. Walk 2 minutes. Do this 6 times.

    Session 3 – 40 min. Run 3 minutes. Walk 2 minutes. Do this 6 times.

    Week 4 – EASY RECOVERY WEEK

    Session 1 – 40 min. Run 3 minutes. Walk 2 minutes. Do this 6 times.

    Session 2 – 30 min. Run 2 minutes. Walk 2 minutes. Do this 5 times.

    Session 3 – 40 min. Run 2 minutes. Walk 3 minutes. Do this 6 times.

    Week 5

    Session 1 – 46 min. Run 3 minutes. Walk 1 minute. Do this 9 times.

    Session 2 – 34 min. Run 2 minutes. Walk 1 minute. Do this 8 times.

    Session 3 – 42 min. Run 3 minutes. Walk 1 minute. Do this 8 times.

    Week 6

    Session 1 – 52 min. Run 5 minutes. Walk 1 minute. Do this 7 times.

    Session 2 – 38 min. Run 3 minutes. Walk 1 minute. Do this 7 times.

    Session 3 – 50 min. Run 3 minutes. Walk 1 minute. Do this 10 times.

    Week 7

    Session 1 – 54 min. Run 10 minutes. Walk 1 minute. Do this 4 times.

    Session 2 – 40 min. Run 4 minutes. Walk 1 minute. Do this 6 times.

    Session 3 – 52 min. Run 5 minutes. Walk 1 minute. Do this 7 times.

    Week 8 *EASY RECOVERY WEEK

    Session 1 – 54 min. Run 10 minutes. Walk 1 minute. Do this 4 times.

    Session 2 – 38 min. Run 3 minutes. Walk 1 minute. Do this 7 times.

    Session 3 – 46 min. Run 5 minutes. Walk 1 minute. Do this 6 times.

    Week 9

    Session 1 – 68 min. Run 10 minutes/walk 1 minute; Run 15 minutes/walk 1 minute. Run 20 minutes/walk 1 minute. Run 10 minutes.

    Session 2 – 46 min. Run 5 minutes. Walk 1 minute. Do this 6 times.

    Session 3 – 54 min. Run 10 minutes. Walk 1 minute. Do this 4 times.

    Week 10

    Session 1 – 72 min. Run 10 minutes/walk 1 minute. Run 20 minutes/walk 1 minute. Run 30 minutes.

    Session 2 – 54 min. Run 10 minutes. Walk 1 minute. Do this 4 times.

    Session 3 – 57 min. Run 20 minutes/walk 1 minute. Run 15 minutes/walk 1 minute. Run 10 minutes.

    Week 11

    Session 1 – 71 min. Run 40 minutes. Walk 1 minute. Run 20 minutes.

    Session 2 – 54 min. Run 10 minutes. Walk 1 minute. Do this 4 times.

    Session 3 – 57 min. Run 20 minutes. Walk 1 minute. Run 15 minutes. Walk 1 minute. Run 10 minutes.

    Week 12 *EASY VOLUME WEEK

    Session 1 – 60 min. Run 50 minutes.

    Session 2 – 43 min. Run 10 minutes. Walk 1 minute. Do this 3 times.

    Session 3 – 52 min. Run 15 minutes. Walk 1 minute. Run 15 minutes. Walk 1 minute. Run 10 minutes.

    Week 13

    Session 1 – 50 min. Run 40 minutes.

    Session 2 – 43 min. Run 10 minutes. Walk 1 minute. Do this 3 times.

    Session 3 Event Day 10K: have fun, and take care not to start out too quickly

  • Candice

    I'm totally excited that I found your website. I will be using your C25K, but I pretty much run a 5K already and have registered for a 10K, so I would be most grateful if you would create a longer version with all the prompts…and not to mention the great music. I found you because I was looking for just that…training pod casts to hip hop! Thank you, Thank you!

  • Debra

    I am SOOO happy I found your site. I actually was doing the C25K with no audio because I couldn't stand Robert's music. You are amazing!! THANK YOU! I would love if you could make ones for longer runs! Thanks again.

  • Michelle

    Hi there,

    I used your podcasts to get me through C25K and really loved it. It really did get me through the longer run intervals when my first thought was “I can't run 20 minutes straight!!”
    Now I'm doing the Gateway to 8K program and enjoying the running part of it because I can now run 40 minutes straight, about 6K. I didn't realise that I was supposed to walk during the short intervals so just slowed my pace a little and that seems to work too. I'm really proud of myself!
    But I am really missing a good, punchy music podcast. I'm using DJ Beatsmith download at the moment, but it's really not my type of music. There are no words!
    Please do a podcast for G28K! Please!

  • Fooch

    Thanks SO much for posting the outlines for 8K and 10K trainings. I am creating my own podcasts for training and needed an outline for voice prompts.

    p.s. If anyone is wondering, I am using a free program called Audacity to create my podcasts with my own music and voice prompts. Not too difficult, just a bit time consuming.

  • Wendy

    I would LOVE it if you would do a podcast for a 10K! You are the only place that has hip hop. The techno stuff just makes me iritable when I run. LOL

    Is it helpful for you to just look at the training programs online that tell you how long to run for training? I loved hearing you tell me when to run/walk…when to slow down…how much time was left!!!! Then, I don't have to keep looking at my watch and get discouraged b/c I have SO MUCH LONGER to run…I just get moving and wait till you tell me to stop! :-)

    I'm REALLY looking forward to more podcasts! Thanks so so much!!!!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TXPJFHXD3PUDVOA6OLE35BZJUE Nichole

    I'm on W8D2 of your program and I would LOVE to challenge myself with another a longer running program. Your is the ONLY program out there with music that motivates me. I wish I could help with the technical end of making a podcast but I don't have a clue. I just wanted you to know how much I love your program and I never dreamed I'd be able to run. Best of luck to you in figuring out the details. I will keep checking back in from time to time to see how it's going.

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